This is the most difficult post I have ever written, Today I had a knock at the door from social services, 2 nice ladies told me that they were acting on an anonymous (cowardly) tip off that my children were in danger, they were not too specific but told me they had to act on all tips so could they come meet my kids.
I told them they were more than welcome and after a brief conversation they met with Emmy (9) and Daniel (14).
To cut a long story short they left with the knowledge that we are a happy family with no reason for concern as my kids are happy, well looked after and very healthy.
Now for the reason for my post….. I know that this campaign http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=77281
The posters at j-ref were trying to get me investigated for the way I’m bringing up my children.

Posting on forums is one thing but when you try to break up my family then it crosses the line so here is what I intend to do, I am visiting NYC in the next few months and will be actively seeking out gravy who seems to be the spiritual leader of these loons.

Mark…. I know you read this forum so bear this in mind, one day whilst you are showing people around the city you will see lots of pairs of eyes but one day you will look into a pair of eyes that will be mine and you know instantly that you will never forget my eyes because they will be the last thing you see.

I know you don’t have children because lets face it who would reproduce with such a cretin, so you cannot even comprehend my resolve.
You fuck with my family….game over, so be vigilant.

BTW if any of the j-ref from the uk are man enough to face the person they accuse then e-mail me admin@beckhamcoverup.com and we can dance.

So j-ref’rs are you mice or men, oh and gravy……see you real soon..

He's at Ground Zero, every Saturday.

Thanks for the head up.

Am I to take it that you are OK with jackchit's threats of physical harm towards gravy?

Thats one of the most tragic things ive ever heard.

Of course He's perfectly entitled to do this, but i really have to question....whats his objective ? at least the 9/11 truth movement has one, at the very least get a new investigation, independent of the Bush admin or anyone linked to it.

How he has the nerve to say with a straight face that wtc7 isnt a con-dem is just beyond me, even when official investigations still haven't come to a conclusion and reputable control demolition experts have come out in favour of the controlled demo hypothesis, and even that stooge at popular mechanics admitted in the BBC hit piece when told it looks just like a con-dem he agreed :D i mean the nerve of these people, .......yeh sure it looks exactly like a controlled demolition, but it isnt, it's like saying yeh it looks like duck but it's really a dog.

Figures that the heartless and mindless Randi worshiping morons would stoop so low.

Jackchit it was Mobyseven behind the social services call. I argued about it with him at jref.

I also sent an email to James Randi himself in which I told him what his forum was planning to do. I recieved no reply from Randi and was promptly suspended at JREF without reason.

I am 100% behind you on this. Gravy is scum. The world would be better without him.

http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=78545

over at j-ref they are reporting this as a threat, no its a promise.
You fuck with me I fuck with you, I have had enough of the j-ref pussies I notice i have had no takers from the uk j-ref'rs

I gotta say, I didn't see a single threat in there. Nice wording, Jack.

Oh, and give Gravy a piece of my mind, too. It is absolutely unacceptable to try to mess with you and your family. It's also absolutely incredible that they went THAT far just because you have differing view points. Damn, if I had the cops called on everyone that disagreed with me, I'd be spending a long time in jail...

So, Mr Avery, you've just read a post where Jackchit threatens to blind and/or murder somebody. Your response is to inform him where his potential victim is to be found.

What do you think your position will be in the unlikely event that Jackchit does what he says he's going to do? I suggest you contact a lawyer. Threatening to murder people is something that't taken quite seriously by law enforcement agencies.

They are cowards. They will never meet you. They can only throw rocks from behind their computers.

Jackchit I suggest you put in a formal complaint to James Randi. I tried on your behalf. Seek legal advice.

If you are going to do anything to groovy gravy then dont write it down anymore.

What do you think about the jrefers calling social services?

You are the only one who has used the word murder.

Hey UK DAVE are you man enough to take up Jackchits challenge? Of course not. I personally wouldnt give a toss if those despicable jrefers died a horrible death. They may do when the truth on 911 is out.

They are running scared and this is what they have to resort to.

Think for a moment, you deranged fuckwit.

Do you seriously think that making public death threats will carry no consequences for you? If you've really got problems with social services, do you think that this is the way to resolve them? What do you think those nice ladies who interviewed you will think when they hear what you've done?

You are clearly a very stupid, very deranged individual. Sadly, the people who should be telling you to back off are cheering you on. The trouble is, you have now broken through to the real world.

There is no way that this can end happily for you. If you are able to dig yourself out of this hole, now is the time.

I'd also strongly suggest to the people at the Loose Change forum that they think about what it means to say "one day you will look into a pair of eyes that will be mine and you know instantly that you will never forget my eyes because they will be the last thing you see". In particular, I'd suggest to Dylan Avery that he read that post over again, read the reply and get your head out of your arse for once.

JREF is a COINTELPRO operation. I have been telling everyone this for the longest time. That's why I say leave them alone, ignore them.

Jackchit, go to the police immediately and file a complaint. Get it on record and do not hesitate.

"one day you will look into a pair of eyes that will be mine and you know instantly that you will never forget my eyes because they will be the last thing you see"


What do you think that means? All I can think of is blinding and murder. What do you mean, Jackchit? Are you speaking metaphorically? Do you intend to blind or kill?

Wake up, Avery. You need to be aware of what you are doing hear.

OK, let's express this in terms you idiots understand. This is a plot to discredit the truth movement, and they are luring you into criminal activites. He's a shill, etc, etc.

This is actually serious. You need to consider your position.

IBTL

Gravy is upsetting a lot of people. I have no doubt that eventually one of them will do something to him.

Gravy does what he does but then announces where he will be and when. Hes putting himself in danger and I have no sympathy for him.

This social services thing is just a step too far though. Combine it with other recent tactics like the Enigma blueprints fiasco ande I think it shows the jrefers are getting desperate. Dylan should ban jrefers on site, they are an organised and dangerous trolling group.

You didn't think that "the last thing you'll ever see" carries any kind of a threat?

I'm starting to understand you people now.

Don't worry about gravy any longer.
murder? lol no murder he just won't be a problem any more

They're bastards over there, I was thinking the same thing about them threatening to report me to the FBI tips program for 'Al-Qaeda membership'. And thats in quotes before anyone starts.
People are getting their doors kicked down and shot even over here in the UK.
Its well out of order - but I'd tone it down, its no use getting too worked up about it - their name is going to be more than mud in a couple of years when all this is over and the post mortem begins.

You fucking idiot.

Suppose he goes to NY and kills or injures someone. What happens to the people advising him and cheering him on.

You are making yourselves endless trouble here. A disturbed person is making serious threats. You are cheering him on. You are doing nobody any favours.

He has written it down, you halfwit. Now you are advising him on the best way to get away with a serious criminal offence. You've just made yourself an accessory, along with Avery.

Calm down, there. No one is crossing an ocean to kill anyone.

Get a life man.

You are just shittin your little panties because you know the truth is coming. You are desperate but you have lost.

Was Gravy the person who called Social Services? From what I've read so far, no.

And we can't threaten or wish death on those of a different opinion. Why would you do that? Because you personally can't argue with him? Then ignore him and let those that have a clue what they are talking about do so.

This is why I can't talk to you people. Why I'm so reluctant to come here and heaven forbid be associated with any of you. Its not about the Truth or exposing the fraud that happened on 9/11. Its about your own damn egos and being right no matter what.

You satisified the social workers with your parenting skills. Good for you. You then proceed to make death threats at a erson that wasn't even involved with the incident.

Thanks for making the movment look retarded. Thatnks for making us all look like maniacs. JREF isn't some kind of government front. It doesn't have to be. You stupid kids are killing any hope of uncovering the facts yourselves.

So where do you stand on 911?

Jackchit, this might be the best day you're going to have. You can't make public threats to deal with people and expect to get away with it.

Obviously you are a very stupid person. However, underneath it all you might have a small grasp on reality, and some understanding of what you are doing here. You should be thinking about the best way to reduce the harm you are doing to yourself.

You can't make public threats to track somebody down and make them "not a problem any more" and expect that it won't bite you in the arse.

Avery - you can't direct somebody where to find a potential murder victim and expect to get away with it. Assume this is a sinister plot to stop your film getting out, and try not to fall into the trap.

Even their beloved Frank Greening said this about JREF: