Richard Gage and Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth

ae911truth.info: Joseph Nobles puts the hurt on Richard Gage's falsehoods

JREF: BeAChooser on AE911truth's "engineers" roster

Gage egregiously misrepresents the fires in WTC 7
"Though Building Seven had been hit by some debris from the North Tower, only the seventh, 12th and 13th floors were burning, Gage said."
(In fact, there were confirmed fires on at least 16 floors: 3, 4, 6, 7, 8, 9, 11, 12, 13, 14, 17, 19, 21, 22, 29, and 30.) Read eyewitness accounts of the fire severity here.

Architect and head of AE911truth Richard Gage displays his astonishing ignorance about the events of 9/11 in a radio debate with explosives expert Ron Craig
Download here (wmv). JREF forum comments here.

Richard Gage thinks thermate + semi-silent huge explosives were used to destroy the towers. No, really!

Richard Gage uses controlled demolition video with the audio altered to omit sounds of explosions



Dr. David Ray Griffin, theologian (not a scientist, but his books cite the work and opinions of Steven Jones, Jim Hoffman, Gordon Ross, Kevin Ryan, and others)

"On Debunking 9/11 Debunking"– NASA scientist Ryan Mackey's comprehensive critique of David Ray Griffin's claims about the collapse of the World Trade Center buildings. Essential reading for "truthers," skeptics, and anyone who wants to understand how wrong even the "best" of the 9/11 conspiracists are. 198 pages. Download pdf or doc file.

"Distortion of Fact" by Andrew Burfield: A Comprehensive Analysis of "The 9/11 Report: A 571-Page Lie" by Dr David Ray Griffin (developing project)

Griffin again declines an invitation to debate me.

Griffin makes an ass of himself debating George Monbiot on James Whale's radio show (MP3)


Griffin's claim of NORAD 10-minute intercept time taken from a computer game, and refers to flights coming from overseas



Software engineer Jim Hoffman
Hoffman's concrete fragmentation and dust dispersion claims shown to be false: Dr. Frank Greening's "The Pulverization of Concrete in WTC 1 During the Collapse Events of 9-11" (PDF)

Hoffman claims NIST misrepresents tower column sizes. I inform him that he's incorrect. (This graphic originally accompanied the post above)



Physicist Steven E. Jones
Physicist Dave Rogers Comments on Steven E. Jones' Paper "Why Indeed Did the World Trade Center Buildings Completely Collapse?"

BYU Engineers denounce Steven Jones' 9/11 claims

Bad science: comments on Steven Jones' January, 2008 paper on iron microspheres found in WTC7 dust.

Dr. Frank Greening's summary of Jones' January, 2008 paper on iron microspheres. More here.

The "mysterious" iron spheres in WTC dust that are cited by Jones as possible evidence of thermite or thermate use, were in fact expected to be produced by the WTC fires:
Considering the high temperatures reached during the destruction of the WTC, the following three types of combustion products would be expected to be present in WTC dust. These products are:

• Vesicular carbonaceous particles primarily from plastics
• Iron-rich spheres from iron-bearing building components or contents
• High temperature aluminosilicate from building materials

...In addition to the spherical iron and aluminosilicate particles, a variety of heavy metal particles including lead, cadmium, vanadium, yttrium, arsenic, bismuth, and barium particles were produced by the pulverizing, melting and/or combustion of the host materials such as solder, computer screens, and paint during the WTC Event. Source (PDF)
Dr. Frank Greening lectures Steven Jones about the content of his iron microspheres

Flaws with Jones' X-ray analysis of dust
On the quantification of EDS spectra (related to Steven Jones' "microspheres" claims)

Steven E. Jones evades questions about peer review of his 9/11 work.

Steven Jones falsely claims 90 peer reviewed papers in JONES: it's actually 40 non-peer reviewed articles. http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=98462 and http://911blogger.com/node/12469

Jones thinks vehicles around WTC site may have been set afire by "thermite dust." As opposed to, you know, paper.

Steven Jones argues that the tower collapses were both "straight down" and characterized by the horizontal ejection of structural steel.

Steven E. Jones determines that 4"-thick concrete floors will not pulverize when a quarter-mile high building collapses. Ya can't make this stuff up.

My look at Steven Jones' thermite/thermate hypothesis

Steven Jones attempts multiple deceptions by photograph

Steven Jones makes false claim of explosive "squibs" at top of WTC 7

Steven Jones misrepresents WTC 7's collapse time

Steven Jones egregiously misrepresents the fires in WTC 7 “Fires were random, not particularly large, and certainly not an inferno," and again misuses photos.

Robert Cronk: "9/11, Steven Jones, and Me" (4 parts)


Physicist Heikki Kurttila
Ryan Mackey on Heikki Kurttila's estimates of WTC building "resistance factors"


Mathemetician Kenneth Kuttler
Physcist Dave Rogers on mathemetician Kenneth Kuttler's analysis of tower collapse times


Mechanical Engineer Gordon Ross
Structural Engineer "Newton's Bit" Examines Gordon Ross' conservation of momentum paper

Structural Engineer Newton's Bit: Failure of the “Truth” Movement’s Engineer (Gordon Ross)

Ryan Mackey on Gordon Ross' calculations

Physicist Dave Rogers: "I came up with a good analogy for Ross's error, in fact. Suppose I go out shopping with a hundred dollars, buy a forty-dollar pair of shoes, buy some lunch, and come back with thirty-three dollars. Analysing this according to Ross's approach, I must have stolen the shoes. Why?

Starting cash: $100
Amount spent shopping: $67
Amount left: $33
Therefore there was not enough money left over after shopping to buy a $40 pair of shoes.

Check Ross's energy tables. The analogy is exact." http://forums.randi.org/showpost.php?p=3174952&postcount=190


"Scholars for Truth" Gordon Ross and Craig T. Furlong write a paper claiming that an explosion at the WTC was recorded by seismic instruments before the first aircraft impact. They hilariously forget to check one little thing.... (Paper remains online and uncorrected to this day). http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=63740&page=10#394

Update: As of April, 2008, Mr. Furlong agrees that there were no explosions before the aircraft hit and does not believe that "9/11 was an inside job," as reported by Ryan Mackey in his "On 'Debunking 9/11 Debunking,'" pp. 79-81

Gordon Ross claims that the core columns that were most accessible from the elevator shafts (the outer, he says) were destroyed first in the south tower collapse. I show why he's making that up. http://forums.randi.org/showpost.php?p=2748783&postcount=6 Accompanying graphic: http://wtc7lies.googlepages.com/Columnaccessibility_2.jpg


Chemist Kevin Ryan
Documents pertaining to Kevin Ryan's failed lawsuit against U.L.

Kevin Ryan alters Larry Silverstein's statement, commits libel and slander, and disrespects the FDNY (after viewing the link above, you can confirm it with this link, which takes you directly to the relevant section of Ryan's videotaped presentation.

Brave Sir Kevin...

March, 2007: Kevin Ryan flees from my debate challenge, although I offer to let him choose the time, the place, the topics, and the moderators.

April, 2007: Kevin Ryan declines an invitation to debate me on the TV show "Hardfire"

July, 2007: Kevin Ryan says no one will debate him on Thom Hartmann's radio show – then flees and has me banned from 9/11blogger.com when I tell him that Hartmann's producer asked me if I'd do it and I immediately accepted.

December, 2007: Ryan lies about how hard it was to find someone to debate him on the Hartmann show.

Delusions of grandeur: Kevin Ryan credits himself for delaying the NIST report on WTC 1&2

Kevin Ryan responds to a few points in Ryan Mackey's extensive "On Debunking 9/11 Debunking," and gets them wrong, of course.(PDF)


Torin Wolf
JREF forum thread on Torin Wolf